Glob Insanity - Guild Wars Forums

MissTrixie · Jul 12, 2005, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Where does it end Arenanet? A patch needs to be made to control the economy, this is borderline ridiculous now. It is bad enough that I need 105/105 of globs/ecto but to make the price so outrageously high so that I cannot attain that goal is just silly. I did not buy this game to farm/grind, I bought it to have fun and meet people. Do you realize that at current prices, a new person would literally have to come up with about 2 million gold just for globs and another 200k for ecto, not to mention the 15k per piece and iron and so forth!?

I know others need more globs/ecto for their armor and for them it's even worse. I hate, truly hate, turning GW on knowing that I will spend the next hour farming or being forced to deal with the incessant noise in districts 1 and 2 to sell things. Don't ruin a good game like this. 5k was high, but it was attainable eventually. Even 7k is attainable. But to have prices at this point is just insanity. STOP THE INSANITY!

Yes I know it fluxuates, but seriously!

kleps · Jul 12, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

wow, i saw it at 11 plat last night and thought that was high.

Bugeater · Jul 12, 2005, 05:29 PM // 17:29

The economy is a very hard thing to judge and control. A month and a half ago there were numerous posts on player to player trades going for too much money. Superior runes of vigor were regularly catching over 100K. That was a bad situation because eventually gold wasn't worth anything. So they made a really cool gold sink.

Maybe they made it a little too steep, because now everyone is scraping for that last Pile of Glittering Dust in order to make the next plat for Fissure Armor. I say give it some time, the economy will balance out (maybe with a little push from ANet

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The Warbringer · Jul 12, 2005, 05:37 PM // 17:37

The 15k armor is (in my opinion) supposed to be insanely hard to get. After that, what is there to buy? It doesn't make a difference except for visually anyways, just settle for the 1.5k armor

Fye Duron · Jul 12, 2005, 05:39 PM // 17:39

The fissure armor is getting sickly priced and is only for the true elite now

Vanquisher · Jul 12, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41

How do you figure PvE Armour for the true elite?

Acan Vishnu · Jul 12, 2005, 05:44 PM // 17:44

I know its been said alot, but in this case especially ArenaNet didn't cause this. People don't need Fissure Armor -- Its an optional feature. The prices wouldn't be getting that high if people weren't buying them for ridiculous amounts of money.

The drop rate could stand a little tweaking, but I'd expect that to come later. Right now everyone who wants to do high-end PvE just run FoW/UW, so if they up the droprate by any appreciable amount then the market will probably be flooded very quickly which will in turn make the FoW armor commonplace, which in my opinion is exactly what it should not be.

Andy of Glacieria · Jul 12, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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The economy is a very hard thing to judge and control. A month and a half ago there were numerous posts on player to player trades going for too much money. Superior runes of vigor were regularly catching over 100K. That was a bad situation because eventually gold wasn't worth anything. So they made a really cool gold sink.

Maybe they made it a little too steep, because now everyone is scraping for that last Pile of Glittering Dust in order to make the next plat for Fissure Armor. I say give it some time, the economy will balance out (maybe with a little push from ANet )

I cant completely agree there, I'm afraid. But I could not agree more with MissTrixie. Playing a singleplayer RPG and just want that 100 million GP armor but cant get that much? Get a cheat code. Such games are eventually meant to be cheated and thats how its meant to be! But GW would SUCK if lots of pl cheated. I dont want to hint that players cheat, not at all so dont misunderstand. To me it seems like obsidian armor is just for those hardcore 15 hours a day players or the most lucky person in the world hu stumbles on the ??ber farming spot. I say it's best to tweakthe material price down to at least a 100 k a piece. And the few players who already have obsidian armor? Well, they didnt have much troble earning enough cash for the armor 1 week ago so they shouldnt disagree TOO MUCH, knowing that they wouldnt have trouble scraping up 500 k anyway.

EDIT: Common? No, the price shouldn't be tweaked TOO much now, all I suggest is that the FoW armor is accessible. Well, there is another option, maybe Anet should unnerf profit spots, destroy the pesky rune trader and/or make money easier to get.

Edge Martinez · Jul 12, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

I hope you all get the fissure armor, so I can be old school with my Droknars gear or maybe some Grotto or Citadel threads. But as for the OP? Yeah, 17k is ridiculous... but I am SO going to UW and FoW tonight!

Borealis · Jul 12, 2005, 06:35 PM // 18:35

It's up and above 18k per glob right now....c'mon anet....this is pure bs.

Sleazy_D · Jul 12, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

No, it's not BS.... it's a bunch of people deciding they want it, and people being willing to pay for it. Blame people willing to farm for bling, and people willing to invest time for bling. You don't need it. It's pretty. It's a status symbol. It's bragging rights. Telling me that the economy is messed up because you have a hard time buying jewlery is... well I don't buy it.

I can still buy ID kits, and salvage kits for reasonable money, and rune prices have stabalized somewhat. The stuff I need required little effort. If I want pretty toys, and bad-ass staffs, I need to get some materials, and it's mine for an hour's worth of work. If I want the most expensive clothes in the game, then it turns out I need to really work at it. The dev probably intended this as a reward for lots of questing in the UW/FoW.

Anyway, if people decided that the pretty armor is dumb, then prices will drop. If people want to keep pumping cash into their leet Fissure armor, then get ready to throw some time or $$$ into it.

Ishamael Sedai · Jul 12, 2005, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Here's the thing. You do not have to have that armor. Arena made an extremely balanced game where 1.5k armor = 1 or 2 million armor. Now they can lower the price of the ecto but in a sense that decreases the uniqueness of the armor and that is what you are getting it for correct? The more they lower the price of the armor (by lowering the cost of ectos) the more people own the armor and the less unique or special it is. I'm not really saying one way or the other whether they should lower the price of the armor. I am still waiting for a 15k armor that looks more similar to gladiators before I spend that much money on a set.

Borealis · Jul 12, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06

105 globs * 20,000 = 2.1 million gold
105 obsidian * 4,300 = 451,500
75,000 just for the armor itself
I'm not caluculating anything else right now.

2.675 million without any other crafting materials

For a full set of armor....yes that is bs. Nobody can afford that by doing what anet says "just playing the game normally".

RAISE YOUR HAND IN THIS THREAD IF YOU CAN AFFORD THAT!!! Without massive farming/griding/ebaying it's impossible to come across that money,. They need to let more ectos drop in uw, it doesn't drop half as much as it did a few weeks ago.

Isis Snowflame · Jul 12, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Hey Ishamael Sedai

Excellent post in response. I agree 100% as long as its strictly a "for looks" and not tactical or involving game machanics Im all for the uniqueness and costly "special" armors.

Isis

Isis Snowflame · Jul 12, 2005, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Nothing in life is free. You want an Austin Martin or Lamborghini youre gonna pay for it my friend.

Borealis · Jul 12, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Ugh, whatever....I give up.

samarium · Jul 12, 2005, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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How do you figure PvE Armour for the true elite?

How do you figure being a PvPer makes you better than any PvEer?

Now a little lesson:

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# A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: ???In addition to notions of social equality there was much emphasis on the role of elites and of heroes within them??? (Times Literary Supplement).

Ohhh, that's right, it's because you can't see over your PvP'in ego.

-sam

Fye Duron · Jul 12, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Vanquisher

How do you figure PvE Armour for the true elite?

I wasn't meaning elite because of skill. Elite because very few people will have the money to get everything needed to craft the armor. For my Necro I would need 105 Globs of Ectoplasm which will be 1,890,000g just for them. That isn't including the 105 Obsidian Shards or other material let alone the 60k to craft all 4 peices. I don't know anyone that can afford that.

Isis Snowflame · Jul 12, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Things should be priced high ... extremely high but reading back I agree with the person who said that they should have a balance so they can still be attainable.

Warlawk · Jul 12, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26

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Originally Posted by Sleazy_D

Telling me that the economy is messed up because you have a hard time buying jewlery is... well I don't buy it.

that nails it right there. complaining because you cant buy the shiney sparkly thing, that was INTENDED TO BE A HUGE GOLD SINK, and then claiming that is screwing up the economy, is pretty dense. you dont seem to understand the point of fissure armor. it was intended to remove massive amounts of gold from the botters that were srecwing up the economy for everyone else. it was not designed or intended to be accesible for the average player. it is a shiney little status symbol that says "I Use a Bot", and nothing more. get over it.

Jul 12, 2005, 05:20 PM // 17:20	#1
MissTrixie Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Cruel Intentions Profession: E/Mo	Glob Insanity Where does it end Arenanet? A patch needs to be made to control the economy, this is borderline ridiculous now. It is bad enough that I need 105/105 of globs/ecto but to make the price so outrageously high so that I cannot attain that goal is just silly. I did not buy this game to farm/grind, I bought it to have fun and meet people. Do you realize that at current prices, a new person would literally have to come up with about 2 million gold just for globs and another 200k for ecto, not to mention the 15k per piece and iron and so forth!? I know others need more globs/ecto for their armor and for them it's even worse. I hate, truly hate, turning GW on knowing that I will spend the next hour farming or being forced to deal with the incessant noise in districts 1 and 2 to sell things. Don't ruin a good game like this. 5k was high, but it was attainable eventually. Even 7k is attainable. But to have prices at this point is just insanity. STOP THE INSANITY! Yes I know it fluxuates, but seriously!

Jul 12, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28	#2
kleps Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/Mo	wow, i saw it at 11 plat last night and thought that was high.

Jul 12, 2005, 05:29 PM // 17:29	#3
Bugeater Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: looking for a guild	The economy is a very hard thing to judge and control. A month and a half ago there were numerous posts on player to player trades going for too much money. Superior runes of vigor were regularly catching over 100K. That was a bad situation because eventually gold wasn't worth anything. So they made a really cool gold sink. Maybe they made it a little too steep, because now everyone is scraping for that last Pile of Glittering Dust in order to make the next plat for Fissure Armor. I say give it some time, the economy will balance out (maybe with a little push from ANet )

Jul 12, 2005, 05:37 PM // 17:37	#4
The Warbringer Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	The 15k armor is (in my opinion) supposed to be insanely hard to get. After that, what is there to buy? It doesn't make a difference except for visually anyways, just settle for the 1.5k armor

Jul 12, 2005, 05:39 PM // 17:39	#5
Fye Duron Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chico, CA, USA Guild: Dragon Fang	The fissure armor is getting sickly priced and is only for the true elite now

Jul 12, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41	#6
Vanquisher Site Contributor Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Herts, UK Guild: One Hitter Quitters [QQ]	How do you figure PvE Armour for the true elite?

Jul 12, 2005, 05:44 PM // 17:44	#7
Acan Vishnu Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: Mo/N	I know its been said alot, but in this case especially ArenaNet didn't cause this. People don't need Fissure Armor -- Its an optional feature. The prices wouldn't be getting that high if people weren't buying them for ridiculous amounts of money. The drop rate could stand a little tweaking, but I'd expect that to come later. Right now everyone who wants to do high-end PvE just run FoW/UW, so if they up the droprate by any appreciable amount then the market will probably be flooded very quickly which will in turn make the FoW armor commonplace, which in my opinion is exactly what it should not be.

Jul 12, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#9
Edge Martinez Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: NC Guild: DKL	I hope you all get the fissure armor, so I can be old school with my Droknars gear or maybe some Grotto or Citadel threads. But as for the OP? Yeah, 17k is ridiculous... but I am SO going to UW and FoW tonight!

Jul 12, 2005, 06:35 PM // 18:35	#10
Borealis Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Black Rose Gaming Profession: Mo/W	It's up and above 18k per glob right now....c'mon anet....this is pure bs.

Jul 12, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57	#11
Sleazy_D Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central Massachusetts Guild: Legion of Gweep Profession: Mo/Me	No, it's not BS.... it's a bunch of people deciding they want it, and people being willing to pay for it. Blame people willing to farm for bling, and people willing to invest time for bling. You don't need it. It's pretty. It's a status symbol. It's bragging rights. Telling me that the economy is messed up because you have a hard time buying jewlery is... well I don't buy it. I can still buy ID kits, and salvage kits for reasonable money, and rune prices have stabalized somewhat. The stuff I need required little effort. If I want pretty toys, and bad-ass staffs, I need to get some materials, and it's mine for an hour's worth of work. If I want the most expensive clothes in the game, then it turns out I need to really work at it. The dev probably intended this as a reward for lots of questing in the UW/FoW. Anyway, if people decided that the pretty armor is dumb, then prices will drop. If people want to keep pumping cash into their leet Fissure armor, then get ready to throw some time or $$$ into it.

Jul 12, 2005, 07:01 PM // 19:01	#12
Ishamael Sedai Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	Here's the thing. You do not have to have that armor. Arena made an extremely balanced game where 1.5k armor = 1 or 2 million armor. Now they can lower the price of the ecto but in a sense that decreases the uniqueness of the armor and that is what you are getting it for correct? The more they lower the price of the armor (by lowering the cost of ectos) the more people own the armor and the less unique or special it is. I'm not really saying one way or the other whether they should lower the price of the armor. I am still waiting for a 15k armor that looks more similar to gladiators before I spend that much money on a set.

Jul 12, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#13
Borealis Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Black Rose Gaming Profession: Mo/W	105 globs * 20,000 = 2.1 million gold 105 obsidian * 4,300 = 451,500 75,000 just for the armor itself I'm not caluculating anything else right now. 2.675 million without any other crafting materials For a full set of armor....yes that is bs. Nobody can afford that by doing what anet says "just playing the game normally". RAISE YOUR HAND IN THIS THREAD IF YOU CAN AFFORD THAT!!! Without massive farming/griding/ebaying it's impossible to come across that money,. They need to let more ectos drop in uw, it doesn't drop half as much as it did a few weeks ago.

Jul 12, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07	#14
Isis Snowflame Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Abysmal Hounds [HELL] Profession: E/Mo	Hey Ishamael Sedai Excellent post in response. I agree 100% as long as its strictly a "for looks" and not tactical or involving game machanics Im all for the uniqueness and costly "special" armors. Isis

Jul 12, 2005, 07:11 PM // 19:11	#15
Isis Snowflame Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Abysmal Hounds [HELL] Profession: E/Mo	Nothing in life is free. You want an Austin Martin or Lamborghini youre gonna pay for it my friend.

Jul 12, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12	#16
Borealis Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Black Rose Gaming Profession: Mo/W	Ugh, whatever....I give up.

Jul 12, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25	#19
Isis Snowflame Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Abysmal Hounds [HELL] Profession: E/Mo	Things should be priced high ... extremely high but reading back I agree with the person who said that they should have a balance so they can still be attainable.